Would signing with Gibbs bring out the real Carl Edwards?

June 19, 2011 21 Comments »

Will we see a different side of Carl Edwards if he makes his way to Joe Gibbs Racing? Photo by Jared C. Tilton/Getty Images for NASCAR

Carl Edwards is one of a kind. He’s the only guy who will answer an e-mailer by name when he’s the in-car analyst for a race. (“Oh, thanks so much for that question, Billy.”) And yet, he’s the only driver in recent years who has been caught on camera nearly punching out a teammate, Matt Kenseth.

This isn’t to say that Edwards’ congenial way is just a show.  But it’s not a stretch for someone to see similarities between him and guys like Curt Schilling or Alex Rodriguez, athletes so willing to try and say the right thing that the word “pandering” could reasonably enter a conversation.

Edwards tries to wear the white hat largely due to car owner Jack Roush, a man so adverse to drama that he was happy to see Kurt Busch hit the bricks — even though Busch brought Roush the first Cup title of the Chase era.

Joe Gibbs, on the other hand, has a history of driver hostility that’s second to none, thanks to folks like Tony Stewart and Kyle Busch. For all of Gibbs’ religious writings and Christian businessman principles, he seems quite comfortable employing guys who rub people the wrong way, and generally does little or nothing to give them a moment of pause.

Roush and Gibbs are in a dogfight for Edwards’ services, and the more this thing drags out the more likely it is that Gibbs could get Edwards to jump ship. Tough economy notwithstanding, Edwards is the only guy with enough stroke to bring in cash relatively effortlessly. If Edwards was totally comfortable staying with Roush, this deal would already be done, or at least close.

If Gibbs can land Edwards, the most interesting question won’t be whether he’ll take over Joey Logano’s Home Depot car. (Likely putting Logano in a fourth Cup car with top Gibbs Nationwide sponsors Z-Line Designs and GameStop in some sort of package deal, BTW. J.D. Gibbs said Sunday that Logano would stay in the No. 20 ride, but we’ll see.)

The question will be: “Which side of Carl Edwards will we see more often?” The side that spends half the Pocono race yakking it up with TNT’s broadcast talent after breaking a part? Or the guy who, with no regard for anything, put Brad Keselowski’s safety in peril so many times last year that Brad’s dad, Bob, threatened to come out of retirement with the now-famous, “He ain’t gonna kill my boy”?

A Carl Edwards who didn’t feel quite as confined by his owner could be less agreeable, but more entertaining.

Who is the real Carl Edwards? Just maybe we’re about to find out.

  • http://Jayskis.com Larry

    Interesting. It wouldn’t surprise me to see Edwards jumb ship because most of these drivers are protitutes anyway and will go where ever the most money is and we all know that Toyota has almost unlimited money to buy Edward’s Services. Nascar, Gibbs, and especially Toyota are desparately wanting a championship in cup racing and by adding Edwards would definitely enhance their chances. But, it would be interesting to see both Edwards and Kyle on the same team to see how their egos would clash. And, Edwards has been saying he owes Kyle one for the Phoenix incident so guess he will get his payback before he jumbs ship to Gibbs. And, I fully agree with your comments about Gibbs and his religion. He wears his religion/christianity for everyone to see but associates himself with the likes of Kyle and has tolerated a lot more from him that Rousch or Hendricks would even though these guys don’t claim to be christians as far as I know. Personnally, I would have a lot of respect for Carl if he stays at Roush because if not for Roush Edwards may not have been the success that he is and it would say a lot if he showed that money is not everything to a driver and that some drivers have still got some loyalty to their owners. Guess we’ll see.

    • Brandon

      His name is Hendrick and the other one is Roush. When you don’t even pay attention to their actual names it makes your opinion carry even less weight.

    • Joe

      If Carl goes to Gibbs Toyota he will lose a lot of fans. That is y Nascar lost so many fans was because they brought Toyota in the sport.

  • Carolyn

    What, did you run out of things to say about the situation? This is: 1. a non-issue and 2. reaching a bit far.

    Carl Edwards is exactly who he appears to be, a nice guy who doesn’t like being walked on. Would you prefer a robot?

    And for the record, I’m a Kahne fan, so I’m not over here defending my driver. I’m quite tired of all this drivel about what a “monster” CE is. These are real people. Humans, with human emotions. No need to make such a big deal out of nothing.

  • http://suerarick.us Sue Rarick

    Getting a sponsor if Edwards moves to Gibbs may be easier than most think. Remember UPS and Cheerios are both up for grabs. And which driver has the better Q score…. Edwards….Ragan …..Boyer
    The answer to that is Edwards. Those companies get more bang for their buck going with Edwards.

    • Ellen

      UPS isn’t “up for grabs” for JGR – they have Fedex as a sponsor…

  • http://Jayski.com Earner

    Can you imagine shrubby 3rd on the depth chart?

    • Bill

      From first to third. You think he will implode like Hamlin.

  • Joe White

    Well as a fan of Ford racing I would be DONE with Edwards if he jumps ship to a toyota. If it’s all about money then screw them all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He is less likely to win a Championship at Gibbs. Gibbs drivers won Championships before toyota not since.

    • Chris Spedus

      Less likely? Where does your claim stand? Roush has been in the sport since ’88 and has two titles, one less than Joe Gibbs who has been involved in the sport three years less. Not to mention, Ford is historically very inconsistent in recent years. Their entire program, most notably the Roush camp, goes through stretches of dominance and dry spells, where as the Toyota camp with Gibbs has been strong out of the gate and consistent since switching from GM. Gibbs as an organization as a whole has not “struggled,” if you could even call it that, since the 18 had Labonte post-championship and the 11 was a revolving door. I don’t care for Edwards at all, but he would be a genius to leave Roush for Gibbs. Both Busch brothers left the Roush camp during their careers and it’s easy to see why. I’d rather be solid as opposed to streaky. If anything, Gibbs has a better chance of delivering Edwards a title than Roush, lest he becomes the modern Mark Martin, and I can only see one organization in this argument where that fate would occur.

      • Michael Kerr

        im sorry but edward would not be dumb to stay with roush he started with roush he might not of won a championship yet but he will he just that good and both busch brother didnt leave roush kurt did and kyle let hendricks what i think kyle made agreat choice there any way i like kyle bucsh but ether choice that edwards make i be happy with but i think he will stay with roush rousch ant going to let him go with out puttin up the money

  • http://bumpdrafter.blogspot.com NASCAR Blog

    Great point! Being around Hamlin and Busch may bring out the “dark side” of Edwards. Not sure that Joe Gibbs would necessarily want that though.. probably wants the great marketing face Edwards has..

  • Richard Ruadh

    I have felt for a long time that Jack Roush held Mark Martin back till it was too late for him to win a championship. I feel the same way for Carl. I would welcome the move and wish him all the luck in the world.

  • Keith

    Edwards would be a fool to leave Roush racing. When a guy like Jack Roush employs you and takes you from nothing and makes you something and still wants you around and will give you a competitive pay package as the team that is trying to steal you away you don’t leave. As for Joe Gibbs Christain Business practices that is the biggest load of BS I ever heard just ask GM about the non negotiation clause until the end of the season is over in his contract and the supposed negotiations with Toyota before the season was over, The look on Tony Stewarts face when the announcement was made said it all.

    • Joe

      That is the main reason Tony left was because Gibbs switched to Toyota

  • http://yahoo.com ann draper

    In defence of Joe Gibbs, you can not treat everyone the same when it comes to religion. You have to lead by the life you live. I think Kyle has come a long way in the last year, and i know for a fact he has had many talks with the coach. As far as Carl goes i will be very disappointed in him if he jumps ship. You know that old saying ( go home from the dance with the one that brought you) well Jack took a chance on Carl an unknown now Carl needs to pay that back. This will really show what kind of guy Carl is. If its just the money he’ll move on if its for love of the sport and where he is today if not for Jack , well we will see. Somehow i can’t see Kyle and Carl together. Gibbs has a championship in the future with both Denny and Kyle I’m sure coach knows that. So that should not be a factor in all this. But lets face it folks i’m sure Carl don’t give a darn what we think he’ll do what he wants, bottom line.

  • http://yardbarker.com Ralph Aniba

    Why do you all try to knock Joe’s religious side? If you read the bible, it was the sinners that Jesus spent time with because they needed him the most! Worry about the log in your own eye instead of the speck in others. Enjoy the sport for what it is not the political venue you try to make it.

  • http://twitter.com/Fisha695 Fisha695

    Since this site also covers some wrestling stuff I feel the Joe Gibbs religion topic can be best answered by a quote from TNA wrestler Sting about his religious beliefs and the less then “Church Appropriate” content of TNA Wrestling. The quote is from an interview in the Baltimore Sun and I think that Gibbs probaly looks at his religion in relation to how his team acts the same way.

    “Jesus Christ himself went in amongst the sinners – the murderers, the adulterers, the idolaters, the drunkards, and so on and so forth. And he didn’t come to judge them, he came to save them, be a doctor to them. I’m not putting myself on that level obviously, but at the same time, we are in the world, we are not of the world, if we are believers. I’m not going to put myself in a shell – it’s just not going to work that way. You have to get out there somehow or another and try to be a light or be the salt of the earth, and that’s all I’ve tried to do.”

  • Charlie Trois

    Gibbs is a 3-time Super Bowl winner and a 3-time Cup champion owner; he is a winner in a competitive business. Smoke, Kyle, Denny, those guys were brought in to win–Denny won 8 Cup races last year. If Edwards goes to Gibbs, he will be going to an organization that is going to win more championships. That’s what a race team should focus on–winning.

    Gibbs may share his religion openly but that is irrelevant to the topic of who is going to race for JGR.

  • gene lawson

    i ben with carl for a while if he jumps ship he will be number four hamilinton bush is his babys i dont see what he will gaine he had the car to win million dollor purce when he has no bad luck he is the car to beat i said the car to beat ford first on race day whith out car he will be like kane gorden baw iam a american ilove ford chev dodge i sold autos for fifty years good old american products

  • Dom

    If you understand Christianity you would know it’s all about a relationship with God and bringing the faith to non Christians. Joe Gibbs faith should not be in question. Should Carl leave his current ride for more money and a chance at a title? Absolutely! Would Carl be out of a ride if some of the younger drivers at Rousch were performing better? Probably. As for losing fans because he switched from Ford? You have to be kidding, I’ve been to 3 Nascar events in the last 6 months and with the exception of Juniors trailer there are more customers at Gibbs trailers than any others. Carl is a great person. I have attended a few events where he has gone out of his way to sign autographs and be with the fans. I wish him the best in whatever he decides. I will be a fan either way.